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christie crying fowl after putting off a vote for hurricane sandy victims. more on that when we return. deal. more on that when we return. >>> as we all know, last night's fiscal cliff deal was essentially a tax deal. part two is to come now as we set the stage for a new fight on the debt ceiling. we've already really hit the maximum amount the government can borrow giving congress about two months now to raise that ceiling or risk default. last year the fight was brutal. as we all remember, and it led to a u.s. credit downgrade. >> yes, and the president has already said, quote, i will not have another debate with this congress over whether or not they should pay the bills they have already racked up. republicans say they won't consider raising the ceiling again without spending cuts, and on that note joining us now is representative david schweiker, republican from arizona. he voted against last night's deal. representative, welcome. >> hi, kelly. hi, bill. >> as we turn our attention towards the debt ceiling in two month's time, how far are you willing to go to get spending cuts? wi
everything from hurricane sandy and the senseless slaughters in sandy hook, connecticut, spending less and giving more to charities. >> jan, i don't want to minimize any of this, the damage that this storm has already inflicted in parts of the country and could still inflict, but we were in an environment where people were just not shopping to begin with. do you think retailers could use this as a good excuse going forward? >> yeah, bert's here with me the four horsemen and apocalypse. i have to agree with him and there's really not a lot of time left. today was going to be a very, very big day, bases where it's not being snow affected. i think you'll see a strong performance. i know i was tough, the biggest deal. the fiscal cliff killed us. retailers went deep on profession and they said, no. i thrill city nyse's will be bert. >> do you think it's getting better in 2013, bert? >> 2013 starts the retail ice age and maybe the 500 to 1,000-day retail recession. shopping centers, malls-based, starting to refinance some of them will create record vak kiss on the laws. >> which stocks speci
the fiscal cliff. it's mostly going to be about sandy relief money from the superstorm. the cliff will come up, but the source said we are not going over any potential deal because there isn't one and the senate hasn't acted yet. >> but even if they're intending to talk more about sandy relief, don't you think the fiscal cliff issue is going to kind of come up? >> of course it's going to come up, but my only point is the meeting -- that's not what the meeting is about. it's a further indication that -- from the house of representatives that they don't consider this thing ripe enough that they're going to bolt and move on it tonight. >> that'll please new jersey governor chris christie and governor cuomo of new york. but you don't think that's a head fake to try and lower expectations? or not to raise them needlessly on the fiscal cliff? >> look. >> we sound skeptical, don't we? >> yes. but we're not that far from 5:00. and we're not that far from midnight. knowing the way the senate acts, the fact the senate leaders have not announced a deal. i don't think it's a trech to say that the house
of the ways and means committee in the house, sandy levin, that called for this legislation. the speaker was going to bring it up to kill it, but he couldn't kill it and then we moved to plan "b," the debacle of all debacles. it's the mother of all debacles. that was brought up in an effort to send us something. he couldn't even pass it among the republicans it was so absurd, he meaning the speaker, so it's very clear now, mr. president, that the speakers's number one goal is to get elected speaker on january 3rd. the house is not even here. he's told me it will give him two days to get back here, not two days, 48 hours. they don't even have enough of the leadership here to meet to talk about it. they have done it with conference calls. people are spread all over the country because the speaker is basically waiting for january aboutrd. now, the president campaigned on raising taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year. the bush era tax cuts will expire at the end of this year. obama was elected with a surplus of about 3 million votes. he won the election. he campaigned on this issu
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